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Les Toises - Centre de psychiatrie et psychothérapie

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🫤 The toises are not what they used to be... I started a follow-up there a very long time ago (it was at their beginning, in the old building at Avenue des Toises 12) j I had a great shrink and the framework was not as psychorigid and hyper-controlled as today. Now they have computerized everything,... People often mention pour, 'est, tait, leur, patients, center, dans, vous, centre, call,


Address

Av. des Mousquines 4, 1005 Lausanne, Switzerland

Website

www.lestoises.ch

Contact

+41 58 458 05 80

Rating on Google Maps

2.40 (112 reviews)

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Working Hours

  • Saturday: Closed
  • Sunday: Closed
  • Monday: 7:30 AM to 6:30 PM
  • Tuesday: 7:30 AM to 6:30 PM
  • Wednesday: 7:30 AM to 6:30 PM
  • Thursday: 7:30 AM to 6:30 PM
  • Friday: 7:30 AM to 6:30 PM

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  • 2/5 Negroski I. 1 year ago on Google
    (Translated by Google) The toises are not what they used to be... I started a follow-up there a very long time ago (it was at their beginning, in the old building at Avenue des Toises 12) j I had a great shrink and the framework was not as psychorigid and hyper-controlled as today. Now they have computerized everything, everything is calculated, controlled and timed. Shrinks work under pressure, often hands and feet tied and are not free to do case by case (adapt their follow-up to the needs of the person) which makes their care restrictive and not constructive. For the slightest request, they must go through their superior and wait for management's approval in order to be able to take certain steps for us. They are also very exhausted, for some, from working in these factory conditions. It's not for nothing that bcp end up leaving. Moreover, after 3 delays the patients are fired (fired to be polite). The management is despotic and only thinks of making turnover... Their business model is not centered around the mental health and well-being of humans (including their employees) but of course profit. In short, it's not what it used to be, now it has become a big money machine that no longer cares so much about the interests and needs of patients (and their employees according to the many feedback I had staff). #PompeAFric Run away from this kind of institution with unhealthy operations and find yourself a nice little practice, with a therapist who will work free of these movements, build his professional development and who will still have the energy and passion to help you. PS: The 2 stars are for the friendly therapists I met there. As for the institution itself and the management, it's a zero point! (Original) Les toises c'est plus ce que c'était... J'ai commencé un suivi là-bas il y a hyper longtemps (c'était à leur début, dans l'ancien bâtiment à l'Avenue des Toises 12) j'avais un psy super et le cadre n'était pas aussi psychorigide et hyper-contrôlé qu'aujourd'hui. Maintenant, iels ont tout informatisé, tout est calculé, contrôlé et chronométré. Les psys travaillent sous pression, souvent mains et pieds liés et ne sont pas libre de faire du cas par cas (adapter leur suivi aux besoins de la personne) ce qui rend leur prise en charge restrictive et pas constructive. Pour la moindre demande, iels doivent passer par leur supérieur et attendre l'aval de la direction pour pouvoir faire certaines démarches pour nous. Iels sont aussi très épuisé-e-s, pour certaines, de travailler dans ces conditions d'usine. Ce n'est pas pour rien que bcp finissent par partir. D'ailleurs, au bout de 3 retard les patient-e-s sont congédié-e-s (viré-e-s pour être polie). La direction est despotique et ne pense qu'à faire du chiffre d'affaire... Leur modèle bizness n'est pas centré autour de la santé mentale et le bien-être de l'humain-e (dont leur employé-e-s) mais bien sur le profit. Bref, c'est plus ce que c'était, maintenant c'est devenue une grosse machine à fric qui ne se préoccupe plus tellement des intérêts et besoins des patient-e-s (et de leurs salarié-e-s selon les nombreux retour que j'ai eu du personnel). #PompeAFric Fuyez ce genre d'institution aux fonctionnements malsains et trouvez-vous plutôt un petit cabinet sympa, avec un-e thérapeute qui travaillera libre de ces mouvements, de construire son épanouissement professionnel et qui aura encore l’énergie et la passion pour vous aider. PS: Les 2 étoiles c'est pour les thérapeutes sympathiques que j'ai pu y rencontrer. Pour ce qui est de l'institution elle-même et la direction, c'est un zéro pointé !
    24 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Robin B. 3 months ago on Google • 85 reviews New
    This establishment is to be avoided! Please trust me and never go there, it's an unqualified and unprofessional center that judges, questions us and doesn't listen to us even though it's their main job... public establishments of psychologists are a lot less reliable than private practices, I recommend the psychology office in Rolle next to the Annadent dental office.
    8 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 sandrine L. 1 year ago on Google
    (Translated by Google) Frankly it is a center to avoid. At first it was great but since they decided to remove the reception to put a terminal for us to announce it has become a disaster. No more reception, we arrive in the waiting room, it's like being in a train station hall. And this was in 2019. I did not hesitate to put an article in the 20minutes. I just left the toises, I had a shrink who was not listening to me at all and who was always late, between 15 and 30 minutes. Even starting at 10 a.m., she still finds a way to arrive at 10:15 a.m. by taxi and doesn't even apologize, goes up to her office and comes back down 10 minutes later. So 25 min late on my appointment. Leakage center. I put one star because you can't put less. Shame (Original) Franchement c'est un centre à éviter. Au début c'était super mais depuis qu'ils ont décidé de supprimer la réception pour mettre une borne pour qu'on s'annonce c'est devenu une catastrophe. Plus d'accueil, on arrive dans la salle d'attente on se croirait dans un hall de gare. Et ceci c'était en 2019. Je ne me suis d'ailleurs pas gênée pour mettre un article dans le 20minutes. Je viens de quitter les toises, j'avais une psy qui n'était pas du tout à mon écoute qui avait toujours du retard, entre 15 et 30 min. Même en commençant à 10h, elle trouve encore le moyen d'arriver à 10h15 en taxi et ne s'excuse même pas, monte dans son bureau et redescend 10 min plus tard. Du coup 25 min de retard sur mon rdv. Centre à fuite. Je mets une étoile car on ne pas en mettre moins. Dommage
    14 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Saurav A. 2 years ago on Google • 6 reviews
    Please avoid at all costs. I went to speak about my worries at work but the psychiatrist rather chose to talk about my family. She asked all the details about my father mother brother sister, their names, the spelling and pronunciation. The whole one hour passed by like that and then she said, all right let's make the next appointment. This is add to the fact that I came from another city just to visit her. Then I received a bill of 267 chf just for this joke. If you want to feel good just donate this much amount instead of wasting at this place who is fooling people in the name of helping them
    11 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Lora L. 1 year ago on Google • 17 reviews
    Writing on behalf of my 17 year old self when I used to see a therapist at Les Toises. Unprofessional behaviour (left the room to answer a call from her daughter that got a job and stayed outside several minutes to congratulate her... also would be understandable if it were an emergency but when she came back, several minutes later during my session, she told me the reason of the call). Moreso, which is probably very personal but as I've had other way better experiences it might be worth noting, but I definitely felt super uneasy with the therapist- probably only saw her about 4 times but I stopped very quickly as I was not learning anything and was not feeling any better.
    8 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Aurelie D. 1 year ago on Google
    (Translated by Google) A disaster!!!… and yet I went there as an accompanying person. The therapists change every 2 months, we are tossed about, little listened to, the organization is very bad. I overheard the manager talking to the reception staff…it’s scary! Never seen so much disrespect. Frankly for a psychiatric center it's a shame! (Original) Une catastrophe!!!… et pourtant j’y suis allée comme accompagnante. Les thérapeutes changent tous les 2 mois, on est balloté, peu écouté, l’organisation est très mauvaise. J’ai entendu le directeur parler au personnel d’accueil… ça fait peur! Jamais vu autant d’irrespect. Franchement pour un centre psychiatrique c’est la honte!
    10 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 2/5 Cyril B. 6 months ago on Google • 18 reviews
    Probably helpful if you need a prescription quickly renewed or have an emergency. I personally regret going with them for a diagnosis I never got a final answer to. I'm glad I wasn't relying on them fully cause their behavior can definitely be defined as unethical and wished these kinds of establishments were more strongly held accountable.
    7 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 5/5 Lusine A. 1 year ago on Google • 57 reviews
    Dr.Etienne Duflot is great! Very professional and helpful.
    1 person found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Eline K. 1 year ago on Google
    Madame, Monsieur, votre secrétaire est raciste. J’ai fais une demande de RDV pour ma mère, la dame qui l’a contacter par la suite a été très audacieuse et irrespectueuse et a tenu des propos raciste. C’est drôle qu’ils nous donnent l’option de psychologues parlant des langues étrangères puis nous demande pourquoi on ne parle pas français, pourquoi on fais ci et ça… aucun respect pour les patients. Ça en dit déjà long sur ce centre.
    9 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Lydie D. 5 months ago on Google
    Cette fois c'est trop ! J'ai quitté ce centre car impossible d'être suivi par le même psychiatre (ils m'ont changé 6x), ils m'ont prescrit un antidépresseur et m'ont laissé abandonnée avec celui-ci qui m'a provoqué de sévères effets secondaires et quand j'essayais de leur dire, ils me disaient que c'était dans ma tête. Les psy partent les uns après les autres, le turn over est énorme (cela montre bien la couleur de cet endroit). Je remet aussi en question la compétence de certains de leurs employés car pour ma part, la personne qui m'a suivi s'est vite retrouvée face à un mur et n'a pas eu l'audace de me dire qu'elle était arrivée au bout de ses capacités avec mon cas. En plus quand j'ai décidé de quitter les lieux, elle m'a balancé à la figure tout ce qui n'allait pas chez moi en me disant que je ne m'en sortirait pas sans eux. Quel professionnalisme ! Après 1 an de perte de temps dans ce centre, je me retrouve 10 mois après mon départ à devoir payer des factures concernant un téléphone qu'ils m'ont donné pour me dire qu'ils avaient perdu des documents me concernant. Cet endroit est une énorme blague. J'ai pas pour habitude d'écrire des commentaires et encore moins négatifs mais la je le fais pour protéger toutes les personnes qui ont besoin d'aide, mais d'une réelle aide. Trouvez-vous un endroit qui prendra soin de vous et n'allez pas dans ce centre si vous voulez aller mieux.
    9 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Gwendoline P. 2 years ago on Google
    (Translated by Google) They charge you a file closing fee of past 70.- when we only did one session to see if it suited us... I was also followed for a few months individually and the therapist was always late and forgot to cancel certain appointments (cancellation and modifications discussed during the sessions). The therapies did nothing for me. We call to cancel an appointment but the secretariat does not cancel it either. Very disappointed with this center because at first I thought they were really competent and professional. (Original) Ils vous facturent des frais de clôture de dossier de passé 70.- alors qu’on a fait qu’une séance pour voir si ça nous convenait… J’ai été également suivi pendant quelques mois en individuelle et la thérapeute était toujours en retard et oubliait d’annuler certains rendez-vous (annulation et modifications discutés lors des séances). Les thérapies ne m’ont rien apporté. On appelle pour annuler un rendez-vous mais le secrétariat ne l’annule pas non plus. Très déçu de ce centre car au début je pensais qu’ils étaient réellement compétents et professionnels.
    8 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Aurélia T. 1 year ago on Google
    (Translated by Google) I would never set foot there again. No real listening. Only their point of view matters. They even hijacked the network made with my social assistant. In short, my anxieties in their presence increase instead of helping me calm them down or manage them. I felt relieved to leave them. (Original) Je n y remettrais plus jamais les pieds. Aucune écoute réelle. Seul leur point de vue compte. Ils ont même detourné le réseau fais avec mon asdistante social. Bref mes angoises en leur presence on augmenter au lieu de m aider a les calmer ou a les gerer. Je me suis sentit soulager de les quitter.
    8 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Cyrill M. 11 months ago on Google
    A fuir. le patient n'importe pas. ca fait bientôt deux mois que j'attend des résultat d'un examen sans nouvelles de mon Dr alors que je relance le secrétariat chaque semaine. soit le secrétariat ne fais pas son travail et n'informe pas le Dr soit le Dr s'en tamponne de la vie de ses patients.
    6 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 4/5 Emilie M. 2 months ago on Google • 10 reviews New
    Too bad Google is primarily – if not exclusively – the dumping ground for disgruntled patients. Positive reviews would be welcome. I understand some feelings because indeed everything is not perfect but don't you think that a family doctor who charges 100 CHF to write a work stoppage is just as questionable? The Swiss system is like this but for many practitioners, care remains the primary objective. It is equally important to remember that it is one of the rare structures that can respond quickly to requests for appointments where independent therapists find themselves overloaded, if not overwhelmed, by growing needs. I myself followed a certain path before finding professional, caring, committed therapists, who in times of crisis demonstrate unfailing presence and who place the therapeutic relationship at the center of the process. Medical and therapeutic procedures were always clearly explained to me and any decisions were taken by mutual agreement. It is possible to ask to change doctor and/or therapist if the feeling is not there. This multidisciplinary center offers in addition to consultations, an emergency and crisis service, group workshops, or even blood and other ECG checks... Another practical aspect, the reminder of appointments by SMS 48 hours in advance, the same for cancellation. In summary, there are things that could be improved (as in any institution) but for me, I have derived a lot of benefits and benefits from it.
    4 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Natsuki Midori A. 2 years ago on Google
    (Translated by Google) I made contact with the fathoms in 2021 around March-April, we are in 2022 on March 4. I provide them with all the documents requested and I waited until February 2022 for them to contact me for an appointment. Since February 2022 until today, I called them 3 times each time I got them the same speech "we will call you back" I sent them an email which remained unanswered. Clearly fathoms are laughing at you. (Original) J'ai pris contact avec les toises en 2021 vers mars-avril on est en 2022 le 4 mars. Je leur et fournis tous les document demander et j'ai attendu jusqu'on février 2022 qu'ils me recontact pour un rendez vous. Depuis février 2022 jusqu'à aujourd'hui, je les ai appelé 3 fois a chaque reprise j'ai eux droit au même discours "on va vous rappeler" je leur est envoyé un mail qui est resté sans réponse. Clairement les toises son moque de vous.
    5 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Fabien J. 1 year ago on Google
    (Translated by Google) The shrinks of the fathoms are more insane than the patients he should have a long stay at the big house =Cery we tire the patients for a week when we have an emergency phone call a week before I find it inadmissible. (Original) Les psy des toises il sont plus taré que les patients il devrait faire un long séjour à la grande maison =Cery on lasse les patients pendant une semaine quand on a téléphone en urgences une semaine avent je trouve inadmissible.
    3 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 5/5 Thierry D. 2 months ago on Google • 11 reviews New
    Yes, this Center is an imposing machine, Yes, some aspects can certainly be improved But I participated in a PSYCHOEDUCATION GROUP FOR BIPOLAR DISORDER in which the therapists offered us simple and effective methods for great benefits in the short, medium and long term. Really very beneficial for me, with a lot of kindness and listening.
    1 person found this review helpful 👍

  • 5/5 Zascali G. 7 months ago on Google • 11 reviews
    I'llpp I love being cut pp

  • 1/5 Emilia B. 7 months ago on Google
    Rendez-vous annulés une fois que vous êtes sur place et minimum 15 minutes après. Ce n'est jamais leur faute et cerise sur le gâteau, ils vous regardant un petit air méprisant... Vous annulez la veille puisque vous êtes malade, ils facturent la totalité de la séance donc vaut mieux trouver une solution. J'y tiens puisque mon médecin est d'une grande aide (et pas du tout ça faute). Les Toises ce n'est plus ce que c'était...Fuyez cet endroit des que possible. ⚠️11 septembre, je téléphone avant de faire un déplacement pour rien, on me confirme mon rdv, donc tout va bien. 09h28 je reçois un appel de leur part et devinez! Le rdv est annulé! Donc il est plus qu'evident que je ne reviendrai plus dans ce centre. Mention spéciale à la réceptionniste qui est toujours très antipathique et devrait songer à une reconversion professionnelle. Dommage puisque le suivi de la Dresse. Couteret était impeccable.
    1 person found this review helpful 👍

  • 5/5 Marcellina w. 6 years ago on Google
    Very good clinic !
    1 person found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Robin B. 3 months ago on Google • 1 review New
    Frankly, I went there 5 times, which was more than enough for me to get an idea of ​​this completely unprofessional establishment, with almost no qualified psychological staff. The administration is even worse, it's really a disaster, my friend received several appointment reminder messages even though she called them at least 3 times to confirm the end of her therapy with them because the psychologist was making remarks to her, the I judged and did not take his feelings into account. This is truly unacceptable and unacceptable!!!! For an establishment supposed to help us psychologically we come away traumatized! CLOSED THIS ESTABLISHMENT AND CREATE PRIVATE OFFICES FOR ALL OF US GOOD!!
    9 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Kasia Z. 2 years ago on Google • 2 reviews
    Very unethical and unhelpful. It's the first time in Switzerland that I met with blaming the patient for their disorganisation and disinformation. Making the patient with mental health issues feel like a truly crazy person. Failing to inform the patients of administrative issues, instead shrugging them off with "we'll call you back". Needles to say, they never do. And when you call again, they make you feel like you bother them. Additionally, a therapist who gives sensitive information to the call center and sends a message which should be discussed on therapy. Giving a reprimend to the patient for "canceling all the time" = canceling 1 visit (respecting the annulation time) in 7 months! Yet, in the file they put more canceled visits (not surprised at all taking into consideration this mess). Do not recommend, if there is any other option, choose differently.
    8 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Claudia 4 months ago on Google • 2 reviews
    It's nonsense, your center is supposed to help people, it's making our conditions worse, we should start asking the right questions at some point. The doctor only contradicts himself 24 hours a day, so once I come to the appointment your colleague got the date wrong there on the other hand we say nothing, I don't come to your appointment direct the bill, and when I needed help and you were supposed to get back to me ???????0 news. You are dangerous, we are leaving even worse than before. You only think about money!
    7 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Schelmor P. 2 years ago on Google • 1 review
    Literally useless during the pandemic... They make you fill our a detailed application for, then write back that their not taking any new patients.. I guess one has to show up unannounced and threaten suicide to be deemed as deserving help...
    5 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Butter-Fly E. 3 months ago on Google • 2 reviews New
    Frankly, I never understood the purpose of this center, it is literally incompetent. Brief
    4 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 1/5 Dan M. 2 months ago on Google • 2 reviews New
    This center is a tragedy. The worst secretarial and service I have ever seen in my entire life. They promise you telephone reminders which they never make, appointments which they do not give you.
    3 people found this review helpful 👍

  • 3/5 Theodore K. (. 1 month ago on Google • 2 reviews New
    I've had several therapists since 2019, many who are unfit or who don't care about their jobs. It took me three or four years to finally find competent therapists.


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